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![]() 06 November 2013, 09:29 |
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Member Country: Other Town: Stanley, Falkland Is Boat name: Seawolf Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8 Length: 5m + Engine: Etec 150 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,723 |
How much can you cook a trailer wheel bearing…
Dug the boat out last weekend after six months in the garage, been too busy building an extension over the winter to use it. I thought I’d better try it in a tank before I trailered it in to the slip, needn’t have worried as the Etec fired on the second turn of the engine. __________________
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Member Country: UK – Channel Islands Town: A large rock Boat name: La Frette Make: Osprey Vipermax Length: 6m + Engine: 200 Suzzy Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,889 |
Chances are you’ll be fine. However, my trailer (which is probably near identical to yours) only gets dunked twice a year and does 3miles each way at 30mph. After the second year, my seals had failed on their own accord and let water in. The inside was a rusty mess. I’m sure I put some photos up on here as getting the bearing savers removed was a bit of a struggle. __________________ |
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Member Country: UK – Scotland Town: north ayrshire Boat name: charlie girl Make: reiver 3.8/regal3760 Length: 10m + Engine: 40hp 2st 2x6lp 315 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,307 |
I’d guess that you will have water ingress into the bearings but the distance your doing I’d just keep an eye on them & change when you get the chance the damage is done when it stands for a while but you can tell with a quick jack up & spin if there noisy __________________ |
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![]() 06 November 2013, 11:32 |
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Member Country: UK – England Town: South Yorks Boat name: Black Pig Make: Ribcraft Length: 5m + Engine: DF140a MMSI: 235111389 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,485 |
I think you’ll be ok. I have exactly the same setup, SBS, Al-Ko sealed bearings, sticking brakes The heat from the brakes will have concentrated around the outside of the drum, to get to the bearing seals, the heat has to conduct to the centre of the hub & through the outer bearing race. I doubt it will have got hot enough in 5 miles to do any damage. The bearings are a doddle to change BTW, as long as you have access to a press, which I’m sure you have They cost around £30 quid a set here on the mainland, that’s an axle set btw. |
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Member Country: UK – England Boat name: Hysucat Make: Hysucat Length: 8m + Engine: Twin Suzuki 175’s MMSI: 235102645 Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 861 |
No bearing seal is 100% water proof. The seal covers two moving bits, so it cant be a perfect seal otherwise the bearing would not move. __________________ |
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Member Country: UK – England Town: Leicester Length: 5m + Engine: 135hp Mercury Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,355 |
If in doubt replace. Better safe than sorry. When leaving trailers long term best practice is to leave the brakes off. I see a lot of caravans where the brakes have been left on & the shoes have stuck to the drums or the cables have seized – the worst was a twin axle, the owner had noticed it was a bit harder to tow than normal but carried on regardless . The heat generated trashed the the shoes and the bearings. The drums were replaced due to concerns about the heat they had been exposed to. __________________ |
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RIBnet Supporter Country: Ireland Length: no boat Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 14,479 |
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You moved to France, Pikey?
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RIBnet Supporter Country: Ireland Length: no boat Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 14,479 |
Bog Monster – I used the same set of Alkos for three seasons. They never got warm, not even after towing for over 100 miles at around 50mph. No idea about your current situation – just info.
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Member Country: UK – England Town: Bucks Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard Length: 6m + Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,246 |
Never leave a trailer with the hand brake on!
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Member Country: UK – England Town: South Yorks Boat name: Black Pig Make: Ribcraft Length: 5m + Engine: DF140a MMSI: 235111389 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,485 |
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That’s gone straight over mon tete
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RIBnet Supporter Country: Ireland Length: no boat Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 14,479 |
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Sorry, I was just enjoying the “mainland” thing. We get a little exercised over here when we hear it in reference to the larger island to our east :-p
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Member Country: UK – England Town: South Yorks Boat name: Black Pig Make: Ribcraft Length: 5m + Engine: DF140a MMSI: 235111389 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,485 |
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Ahh! Well, knock that chip off your shoulder young sir, you see slights at every turn I was using “Mainland” in the Falklands-British Isles context. If I’d said UK, that would have implied that the Falklands aren’t part of the UK, which they very much are & I hope remain so. If I’d said England, I’d have had the Sweatys & Sheep worriers on my case, so here’s me thinking that “Mainland” was a pretty safe bet & up pop the Spuddies, I can’t win This Polytickley correct business is a bloody minefield |
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![]() 06 November 2013, 15:47 |
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Member Country: UK – England Town: Hampshire Boat name: Altea 2 Make: Narwhal Length: 5m + Engine: 90 Mariner Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 855 |
To answer the thread question: quite a lot! |
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RIBnet Supporter Country: Ireland Length: no boat Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 14,479 |
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No chip here – I just enjoy seeing the mind at work in the word You Yorkies appear to be able to stretch the term “mainland” as far as you can stretch a pound. You could have said UK as the Falklands are a British Overseas Territory. “Mainland” would suggest the nearest major landmass…..
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Member Country: UK – England Town: yorkshire Boat name: little vicky Make: avon ex RNLI Length: 3m + Engine: tohatsu Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,310 |
Ok not exactly an overheated wheel bearing but once saw a hard boat being towed down the A1 in North yorks that came past me about 65 mph with the jocky wheel on fire : 0 __________________ |
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Member Country: UK – Scotland Town: Glasgow Boat name: stramash Make: Tornado Length: 5m + Engine: Etec 90 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,090 |
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Its a wonder there wasnt a fire there .. doesent look right ? Never seen that meself and I run 8 plant trailers commercially as well as me boat.How would just the outer end get that hot, and the rest of the backplate and shoes not get fried ? ..weird __________________ |
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Member Country: UK – England Town: South Yorks Boat name: Black Pig Make: Ribcraft Length: 5m + Engine: DF140a MMSI: 235111389 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 11,485 |
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Get away wid yiz, we all know that anything outside Yorkshire is “Foreign”
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Member Country: UK – England Town: Hampshire Boat name: Altea 2 Make: Narwhal Length: 5m + Engine: 90 Mariner Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 855 |
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Both bearings had collapsed, the shoes were brand new, hence they don’t look too bad I guess, but I agree, they were lucky it didn’t catch light. |
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![]() 06 November 2013, 19:41 |
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Member Country: UK – England Town: Leicester Length: 5m + Engine: 135hp Mercury Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,355 |
I will admit to once overtightening a taper roller bearing on the front wheel of the Scimitar I owned at the time. The resultant heat destroyed the bearing cage & welded the inner rear race to the stub axle. What fun that was to get off
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Member Country: UK – Scotland Town: Glasgow Boat name: stramash Make: Tornado Length: 5m + Engine: Etec 90 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,090 |
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So … bearing collapse .. long motorway run .. no breaking .. probably a big SUV (as they didnt hear the rumble.. presumably ? ) and heavy boat on a single axle trailer? or double TG ? I see the bearing on the mud guard of the left wheel The heat is evident from the grease loss from the inner race.. over the shoes. With that heat on the outers.. the hub cap would have melted if it was plastic and thrown grease all over the rim hastening the demise the inner stub is still wet with grease but the outer is dry and indeed rusted, so the heat was intense indeed Over torque quite possible, the washer on the other side of the castellated nut shows signs of rotation, which provides more friction, once the grease has gone and generates heat, if the bearing got dry and bobs your aunti .. can you elaborate on the conditions before the failure TG ? __________________ __________________ |
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